US defence secretary to meet Nato counterparts after Trump-Putin call on Ukraine – Europe live

Ever a diplomat, Nato secretary general Mark Rutte opted for an art of understatement saying “clearly a lot happened yesterday,” and admitting this “will be debated today and over the coming days and weeks.”. But he tried to look for positives, stressing that “there is also a clear convergence emerging that we all want peace in Ukraine, rather sooner than later.”. “We all want Ukraine to be in the best possible position when those talks start to make sure they can be concluded successfully,” he added.

“It is crucial that whatever comes out of these talks is durable and enduring. ... We cannot have Putin again trying to capture a square mile of Ukraine in the future,” he said. US defence secretary Pete Hegseth has just been speaking to reporters before today’s Nato defence ministers meeting in Brussels. He said that the Russian aggression on Ukraine was “a factory reset for Nato,” and a moment of “realisation that this alliance needs to be robust, strong, and real.”.

“That is why president Trump has called for increased defence spending across the board for Nato, for European countries to recognise this is an urgent, real threat to the continent and this aggression needs to be a wake up call,” he said. He says that standing up to Russian aggression is “an important European responsibility.”. He praises Trump as “the best negotiator on the planet” for bringing both sides to the table in pursuit of peace.

But he gets confronted by reporters with suggestions that the rapid push to peace and talks with Putin could be seen as amounting to a betrayal of Ukraine. “That is your language, not mine. Certainly not a betrayal,” he insists. “There is no betrayal; there is a recognition that the whole world and the US is invested in peace, in a negotiated peace,” he says. US defence secretary Pete Hegseth is set to meet dozens of his counterparts at a Nato meeting in Brussels, a day after the US president, Donald Trump, said he had spoken to Russia’s Vladimir Putin about negotiating an end to the war.

Trump said he had spoken for more than an hour with Putin and that the two men expect to meet in person in Saudi Arabia soon. He said he later spoke to Volodymyr Zelenskyy and denied that he was “freezing out” the Ukrainian president. Zelenskyy – at least in public – offered support for the talks, saying he and Trump had held a “meaningful” conversation by phone. “No one wants peace more than Ukraine,” he wrote.

But the development came just hours after Hegseth told an international meeting of Ukraine’s backers on Wednesday not only that Kyiv could not realistically hope to return to previous borders or join Nato – a sign of things to come from Trump later – but also that the US was no longer “primarily focused” on European security. So the key question for Europe is: what next?. When asked if any European countries would be involved in peace talks, White House press secretary Karoline Leavitt said: “I don’t have any European nations who are involved currently to read out for you.”.

This is exactly the nightmare scenario that Zelenskyy explicitly warned Europe against during his World Economic Forum speech last month. “It is not clear whether Europe will even have a seat when the war against our country ends. … We are deeply grateful to Europe for all the support … but will president Trump listen to Europe, or will he negotiate with Russia, China, without Europe?," he asked.

We heard a lot of statements from European countries overnight insisting that no decisions can be made without Ukraine, and that the priority should now be on putting Ukraine in the strongest possible position before these talks start. But during this morning’s meeting in Nato, there will be lots of questions asked as to what else can be done among European partners – or if it is too late now. It’s Thursday, 13 February 2025, and this is Europe live. It’s Jakub Krupa here.