Even so, with the third-best defensive record, third-best away record and the current best run of form in the league, there’s no shortage of optimism around the City Ground.
The best league position Nottingham Forest had achieved in 28 years came last season.
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There have been no shortage of players being highlighted for their new-found defensive resolve and consistency either, with summer signing Nikola Milenkovic unquestionably excellent.
But Forest haven’t just been grinding their way to draws or trying to avoid defeat: they’ve been proactively winning matches.