Today an alliance of politicians, leaders, thinkers, and even YouTubers congregated in east London at the "Alliance for Responsible Citizenship" conference to discuss the future of right wing politics and Kemi Badenoch was given the keynote speech.
She said: "I remember being in cabinet, seeing if we could get to 3% by 2030, and we could not make it work because we were paying so much in debt and so much on welfare.
She also seemed unconcerned by Mr Trump's intervention in the Ukraine war - another major issue the Tory party would ordinarily seize on.
The leader of the Conservatives used her speech to say it was only her party who could be the guardian of Western civilization, and even compared herself to Donald Trump.
When I asked her about Trump's decision to engage with Vladimir Putin so early on and potentially cut out Ukraine in future negotiations, she said: "Let's see what happens.".
